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DOSSIER

FLOOD RISKS

Isn't that a bit odd?

'It is unfortunate and it could, given the magnitude of the

problem, turn out to be disastrous. We have to join forces

worldwide now. We can do it. And I believe we want to do it, too.

Even so, when the World Economic Forum identified water as

the leading global problem, not a single newspaper here covered

the story. With our clean water, our dikes and our storm-

surge barriers, we are well organised. But there is not much

awareness of the problem, even though we can be so proud of

our history and our current knowledge, and even though we

can and should use it to help people throughout the world.'

Despite the daunting nature of the challenge,

what gives you hope?

'Water brings together the main themes facing the planet:

ecology and economics. If we manage water well, we create

prosperity and equality. The wonderful thing is that water also

demonstrates how vulnerable we are: it transcends national

borders and politics. We should also be paying less attention

to borders and thinking about more than just our individual

interests. New ways of working together and innovative

solutions where di£erent interests meet: that is where the

real power is and that is how we can change the world.'

Scientist Jaap Kwadijk: 'We

should be taking a close

look at what gives us most

safety for our dollar.'

Scientist Jaap Kwadijk (University of Twente and Deltares)

assesses flood risks throughout the world.

The Netherlands is about to tackle flood risk

management diŒerently. Why change some-

thing that the whole world agrees on?

'Even though we have the safest delta in the world, we need to

think about howmuch we want to spend on safety. Maintaining

3,500 kilometres of dike costs a lot of money. In the new

approach, we look at the impact of flooding on a society and

an economy, and what it costs to prevent negative e£ects.

Doing this shows that major investments can be needed

in some locations that pay for themselves many times over.

Elsewhere, they can be a waste of money. Clarifying the costs

and benefits makes for a better debate and smarter choices.'

Fantastic! Are you doing that for the rest of the

world, too?

'Certainly! It's not enough to just identify the problem. Okay,

we know where things go wrong and how badly. But what's

next? What are we actually going to do about it? Deltares is

involved in developing tools that clarify risks, consequences,

costs and solutions. How can we get most safety for our

dollar? Where do you get a return on your investment? We also

combine knowledge about rising water levels and the weather

with the rising population and economic growth. That makes

sense, but analyses of this kind have been challenging until

now, and this is an area we are working on.'

What can water scientists themselves do better

to help the world?

'Worldwide, more collaboration is still needed, but the same

applies to our own institutions. Some people are working on

clean water, others on the seas, and still others on rivers. If we

can break down those divides and combine all that information,

which is still very di¨cult in practice, we could achieve some

interesting results. This type of collaboration should be the top

priority, followed immediately by moving beyond scientific

research and looking for solutions. We shouldn't be telling

horror stories; we should be quantifying, and concentrating on,

solutions. Otherwise, you just get bogged down in the analyses

with which everybody is familiar by now.'

What can the world learn from the Netherlands?

'The Netherlands is very good at working with others. In the

Netherlands, information gets exchanged between public

and private bodies and the scientific world without having

to surmount all that many hierarchical obstacles. I can pick

up the phone and call a company or a ministry, and people

will take me seriously. My own personal experience is that

things can be very di£erent in other countries. People don't

listen enough to scientific institutes even though they are the

suppliers of knowledge and innovation. We are a small country

but, when we work together, we are unbeatable.'

And the other way round?

'The Netherlands has it easy compared to other places: we

don't have extreme weather here, there is a solid subsurface of

sand and the delta is small compared with the huge deltas in

other parts of the world. Our Rhine is a stream by comparison

with the Mekong River. And there is no opposition to flood risk

management in the Netherlands: there isn't a single politician

arguing against it, or claiming it's too expensive. There are

parts of Asia and Africa where the population is growing

rapidly, but where there is hardly any money is to protect the

population from the rising water. This is where we see the real

challenges. Dutch scientists should study these regions to think

in ways that are less Dutch. We need to think much more in

terms of the local situation. We shouldn't be telling people what

to do; we should be telling themwhat will happen when they

make particular decisions, and leave the politics to the locals.'

Every day, the numbers tell us what will happen

in the decades to come, and it's quite a challenge.

Why do you thinkwe're going tomake it?

'I cling on to one idea: you will never be able to prevent flooding

entirely, but you can make it manageable. If we get to work

now, there is still time. Learning from one another is easy now

that information can be circulated so quickly. So no, I'm not

pessimistic. Definitely not. It's going to be tough but, if we do

the job properly now, we will be able to manage the problems.'