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ENERGY ANDWATER DOSSIER

reduce costs. But I must admit: any engineer dreams about

making something this big. Even so, our ambition isn't to

plant a big flag in the sea or to have an island named after

us. Other locations are possible and everything doesn't have

to be done exactly as we suggest. Our main aim is to show

that a broader plan is needed and that the plans for the initial

stages will have to be completed in 2017.’

Is offshore wind – whatever the approach – the

solution to our environmental problems?

‘Sun and wind are complementary. That is an important

underlying principle. There is more sun in the summer and

more wind in the winter. So you need both. To achieve the

Paris goals, environmental organisations have calculated

that, in addition to other measures, we need about another

3,000 wind turbines. As far as we are concerned, that is

possible. There is no single solution: what matters is the full

picture. I see it like this: more and more people are driving

electric cars but what is the point if the electricity doesn't

come from a clean source? Apart from the network, energy

storage is also a problem: renewable energy is often generated

just when you don't need it. Wouldn't it be wonderful if

all those electric cars could also be used as batteries for

renewable energy? Those are the types of networks we should

be thinking about.’

What is the main obstacle at the moment to

moving in the right direction?

‘I mean this: there's nothing to stop us at the moment. The

tide is flowing in our direction. Ideas that seemed utopian

five years ago are achievable now. Of course, there are risks.

But they are not technological; they are associated with

international ambitions and cooperation. Where is Europe

headed? Are countries turning inwards, or are we prepared to

face the future together?’

What would be top of your international

agenda?

‘It is incredibly important to sell the story of green energy

properly to the public at large. Wind energy and the inter­

national energy market are difficult to understand. The idea

that green energy may be a scam gives the whole sector

a bad image. Barring a few exceptions, that's not fair. But

the idea sticks. And some people go even further: they think

that Dutch green electrons should go to the Netherlands,

and that Danish electrons belong to Denmark. But electrons

don't care about frontiers. Indeed: the more relaxed our

approach to borders, the better for green power. And we are

in a hurry. In my previous job I could read reports all day and

visit conferences about sustainability without making any

progress. That really is a thing of the past. We need to get to

work.’

Swansea Bay in Wales

is one of the rare places

in the world with a huge

tidal variation: 8 to 10

metres. Tidal Lagoon

PLC has plans to create

the world's largest tidal

lagoon here. Anton de

Fockert of Deltares built

the scale model.

TEXT: HARRIOT VONCKEN

IMAGE: TIDAL LAGOON SWANSEA BAY

‘We have known for years that you can use

the tides to generate energy,’ says Anton

de Fockert. The world's first tidal power

plant was built in La Rance, France, in

1966. We now have underwater turbines

that supply 20 MW – more than the